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8th Jun, 2004

The Changing World
You know that science fiction is not a secret society any more when...the Business Editor of The Sunday Telegraph (6th June) explains the current shenanigans at Marks and Spencer in terms of the differing personalities and roles on the Starship Enterpise of Kirk and Spock!

Patricia A. McKillip - Ombria in Shadow - Atmospheric and kindly fantasy - love conquers all, at least for the main characters.
Bruce Sterling - Tomorrow Now - Superbly entertaining and deeply worrying muse based on Shakespeare's speech where "all the world's a stage". Reminds me why I think that my teenage self got a jump on the future from reading SF. And a bloody good book.

Peonies, potentilla, clmbing rosess all in super form. And the things I thought were cabbages in the wild patch at the back are about to become the most spectacular poppy display.


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8th Jun, 2004 07:54 (UTC)
I'd be inclined to agree with you about sf being mainstream now, it's just that Star Trek is not what I'd have used as an example. It's so mainstream it's not sf anyway, even if sf were still a secret society.

My last manager but one used to tease me about being a fan, and once said of a recent Star Trek movie release that "I suppose you'll be going to see it."

I said "Funny, I won't, but I suppose you will be." He had to admit that, yes, he would be seeing it, which was my point. Mundanes go to see the big Star Trek blockbuster: if they didn't it wouldn't be a blockbuster, there aren't enough fans for that.

I know that sounds like a reverse version of the old "well then, it's not sf!", but in the case of ST it's actually true. It was part of popular culture when "that sci-fi stuff" was still despised, so I don't think it can be used as an example of sf being accepted by popular culture. I'd be much more inclined to cite the ubiquity of Banks and Pratchett among books being read on the train and tube as examples.

8th Jun, 2004 08:21 (UTC)
Yes, but the Sunday Telegraph business pages are not, or at least not entirely, popular culture. The editors at The Telegraph would like to think that they and their papers sit above something they probably think of as popular culture, talking down to and about it rather than being part of it. So when they use (their demonstrated and their readers presumed) detailed knowledge of the ST characters to talk about the real world, then the whole thing has moved to another level.

When he can use Granny Weatherwax and MORT to do something similar then the world will be a better place!
12th Jun, 2004 06:24 (UTC)
Re: Off topic :-)
Just thought I'd pass through and say "Hi!". I followed a link from bohemiancoast. Hope you remember me from conventions and that you don't mind me adding you to my friends list (my user info will give you more clue).
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