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Please can I have some help

Various things are planned for Eastercon.

Please could people here suggest to me:

Things I missed on tv 1970-2010 through not having free access to tv, particularly before the turn of the century.

Major rows and turning points in fandom between 1980 and now.

And could those of you that write talks tell me how many words make a minute's speech - approximately?



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5th Mar, 2015 16:10 (UTC)
If you speak fast, you can say a lot of words in a minute. If you speak clearly, not so many. I recommend rehearsing with a friend. They should time it and give you a critique. Repeat until it feels natural.

LBJ in his first State of the Union speech wrote "PAUSE" after each sentence to slow himself down. It worked. He made a great speech and got the Civil Rights Act passed.
5th Mar, 2015 16:38 (UTC)
Major rows and turning points in fandom between 1980 and now.

Jeanne Gomoll's "An Open Letter to Joanna Russ" would qualify as a turning point. It's in Aurora 25 at http://sf3.org/history/janus-aurora-covers/ Bruce Sterling's reply is in #26.

In general, rather than covering the major rows in fandom, I'd rather you made something up. Sheesh.

5th Mar, 2015 16:42 (UTC)
I always write on the basis of 100 wpm, though I do actually talk a bit faster than that - but planning for 100 wpm keeps me within my limits.
5th Mar, 2015 17:13 (UTC)
Re the TV request, were you specifically after SF/Fantasy? Were you just thinking of the terrestrial channels or satellite? I mean, there was just so much!
5th Mar, 2015 17:15 (UTC)
There's no test that works other than timing yourself with the piece in question.

I time all readings of my plays and work out a wpm minute, and I time other playwrights in the group (we have a meeting this evening by chance) and tell them to work out their wpm. Each person's is different and varies wildly depending on the material.
Ashley Pollard
5th Mar, 2015 18:40 (UTC)
IIRC news readers talk at 200 wpm.
5th Mar, 2015 18:59 (UTC)
It depends on the audience. I don't write talks by word-length, but by page length. The average lecture for undergraduates is 6 sides of A4, with each side taking about 8- 10 mins (depending on slides and so on that may need to be explained or illustrated).
TV shows of sf interest in that period might include the underrated Star Cops, from the mid 80s.
7th Mar, 2015 17:05 (UTC)
Ooh we love that and have it on DVD!

David Calder turned up as guest victim in an episode of Father Brown and it took me a few minutes to recognise him.
7th Mar, 2015 22:45 (UTC)
I saw that episode, too! So good to see him again.
5th Mar, 2015 19:03 (UTC)
Personal top 10 sf TV 1970 - 2000
TV sf programmes top 10
Babylon 5
3rd rock from the sun
Blake's 7
Edge of darkness
Red dwarf
Sapphire and steel

3 runners up
Dark skies
7th Mar, 2015 10:23 (UTC)
Re: Personal top 10 sf TV 1970 - 2000
And some further TV from my childhood…

Ace of Wands
The Tomorrow People
Children of the Stones
The Omega Factor
Nightmare Man
The Changes
The Tripods
Space 1999
A lot of Dr Who :-)

Many of the above are now available on DVD so you can see what they were like - good or bad. Some though are lost - the first 2 seasons of Ace of Wands was a victim of ITV's tape wiping, something not as well publicised as the BBC's similar efforts.
6th Mar, 2015 01:09 (UTC)
I've taught public speaking (pity my students) and written a bunch of speeches for various things and Australians tend to speak 250-300 words a minute, which is quite fast. British speakers have much more variance in their pace. What I'd do (seriously) is tape yourself talking at the perfect speed (just talking) about a subject that matters, with a friend. This is the type of tone that you're likely to want, so this is the likely speed. Talk for at least five minutes. Then count the words and average. It's a pain to do, but once you've done it, you know your pace for any speech of that nature.

If you're not writing a full speech but notes towards one, it's a substantial point for 5 mins and an overview (with maybe a cute example, but not much in the way of salient detail or explanation) for one, for most speeches (not for academic ones, for instance).
8th Mar, 2015 18:01 (UTC)
When writing narration scripts the rule of thumb is 2 words per second. So 120 words.

For a minute's speech I'd lop off a chunk of that 120 for pauses for breath, audience reactions and the like.

Running through it a few times with a friend or stopwatch timing it will help. Also which would be worse - over-running or being too short?
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